During WUF9 in Kuala Lumpur at the Next City World Stage, IHC Global unveiled “Smart City. Just City.,” an initiative that aims to bring the rising tide of urban data, technology, and efficiency together with the movement to increase inclusiveness and equity in cities. To a packed and curious crowd, IHC Global President and CEO Judith Hermanson introduced the initiative and explained why the words “smart” and “inclusive” need to go together when talking about urban development. After the event, Judith Hermanson sat down with Next City to continue the conversation. Listen to the interview below: